Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  Watchtower Content Producers Tardy With their Monthly Broadcast. WHY?

  by scotoma in

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  2. friends

  how hard is it to produce a monthly program and get it up on time?

  they are late every month.. are these the same people that published 128 pages of magazines by the 1st,8th,15th and 22nd of every month for over 100 years?

  are they understaffed?

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  When I hear the word "helper" I think of Santa Claus helpers up on the North Pole. Every time.

  So in December the GB "helpers" should be called "elves".
  
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  Simple, yet very effective way, for ALL to spread the TTATT to current JW family and friends, possible GAME CHANGER.

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure this has probably been thought about, and maybe others have mentioned it already.

  in fact, i cant even take credit for this brilliant idea.

  it is a "tactic" that my father uses, to great effect, and he is a current jw.. as we all know, there is a wealth of info on the internet, and many other sources, that clearly exposes the many lies of the wts.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  the WTS is in a much different place than it was, even a few years ago

  Indeed, it's in a different place than it was just a few months ago. And who knows where it will be a few months from now.
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  Watchtower properties for sale website

  by NewYork44M in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here is a great site in case anyone is interested in acquiring wt property in brooklyn heights.

  https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  This note is at the bottom of the page:
  

  We invite qualified buyers to visit the individual property websites, sign a Confidentiality and Non-Disclosure Agreement, and learn more about the properties.

  WT Corp is sure big on "gag orders"... for judicial proceedings, for abuse victim payouts, etc. Clearly, they don't want the rank & file to learn about this massive payday for the GB.
  
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  Simple, yet very effective way, for ALL to spread the TTATT to current JW family and friends, possible GAME CHANGER.

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am sure this has probably been thought about, and maybe others have mentioned it already.

  in fact, i cant even take credit for this brilliant idea.

  it is a "tactic" that my father uses, to great effect, and he is a current jw.. as we all know, there is a wealth of info on the internet, and many other sources, that clearly exposes the many lies of the wts.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  As OneEyedJoe posted, this is very similar to what I did early in my fade and a tool I keep in mind if ever needed. I had to be careful about my "experience" that brought up a question and exactly who was doing the asking because I found that plenty of JWs would try to ignore the question and attack the questioner. "They must be an apostate! Who were they? What church do they go to?" Perhaps if I didn't have so many people with their noses in my business and living in a small town, I could have gone with a "study" scenario.
  

  In my experience, I realized that JWs are accustomed to life with cognitive dissonance, this just become more obstacles that dubs would ignore and instead stare into space fantasizing about petting pandas or something. For me, the primary reason wasn't to force others to see TTATT, it was to expedite my fade. In that respect, it was very effective. When I moved away and stopped attending, I think the elders were relieved that I was gone. No calls, no visits, no hassles, no more awkward questions from me.

  Except for a few family members, I can't conclude that anything I said caused anyone else to walk away from that congregation. However, I think plenty of them became much less enthusiastic about preaching.
  
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  Elder's letter requesting details of solicitors, barristers and accountants

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was a letter sent to elders in australia on 18th november 2015 asking for details of publishers that are solicitors, barristers and accountants.

  what would be their motive for these details?

  the rest of the letter outlines 8 specific pieces of information to compile and send to bethel's legal department, and reiterates to collect the information only be "as you understand, without consulting the publisher.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Maybe they are planning to mass disfellowship all of these who have received "higher education"!

  LOL
  
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  The FINAL DAYS are here !!!

  by Calebs Airplane in

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  2. beliefs

  according to this jw video... now is the time to preach without fear!

  now that the final days are here!.

  the final days were not here previously (as they kept insisting for over 140 years)... but now they are!.

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  Armageddon--Now 10% Closer Than It Was 11% Ago!
  
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  Bethelites being sent to Wallkill and Paterson

  by Angelclare in

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  2. beliefs

  this is my first post but i've been lurking for some time.

  ive just spoken to a friend of mine from my jw days who isnt aware that i no longer associate.

  hes the coordinator of the body of elders in his congregation so i suppose he does know something of whats going on at the wt.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I agree with Listener. Sounds like they're getting ready to $ell what's left in Brooklyn.

  NY congregations are tired of you Bethelites and carrying your ass.

  While the bethelites didn't contribute much financially to the local NYC area and Jersey congregations, they brought a fair amount of youth and "spirituality" and husbands for the local girls. I wonder how many congregations have had to merge or will merge in the future as the bethelites, including lots of elders and MSs, evacuate NYC.
  
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  Theocratic Ministry School cancelled. Why?

  by the girl next door in

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  2. child-abuse

  is it possible this aspect of the meeting was cancelled so that jws would not be categorized as a "school" where in many areas elders and ministerial servants would have to submit to a background check by secular authorities?

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I got a text that it is being said that the reason they did that was because of new rules requiring background checks of teachers in religious settings?

  Anyone else hear this or can verify?

  No time to verify! This rumor needs repeating! And JWs love their urban legends, so ramp it up!

  "I heard from one of the ex-bethelites whose friend sits at a table with a GB member who said that they needed to get rid of the word "school" or the government would come through and flush out all the child molesters from the congregations. In order to protect the secrecy of these abusers, WT has dropped the word "school"."
  
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  My RC hearing brought forward. Will be in two weeks

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  through this forum of wonderful freaks, i have met someone who is coming with me to my hearing.

  initially i was slated for next year, but will be attending in two weeks time.

  all is in place from travel vouchers, support, where to go ............very efficient and well done.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  In order to go D2D, publishers should pass background checks and attend classes that instruct them why they need to be aware of this abuse problem in the congregations, including excerpts from the RC proceedings. As was demonstrated by those elders at the RC, JWs will try to ignore and "not have time" to give attention to this necessary subject. WT wants all the sheeple to ignore this danger--this has got to stop.
  

  Since the preaching arrangements have enabled abusers, no children should be going out preaching D2D. If they are otherwise going out on studies or RVs, they should be accompanied by a parent at all times.

  Since several, even Jackson, basically said that it was the government's fault for not requiring mandatory reporting, it should be mandatory. With serious punishment for any coverups.

  Since so much information was brought out about the injustices of judicial proceedings, I wish that WT would be required to do any such judicial hearings biblically--either in public or with numerous people to witness the proceedings and provide moral support to those involved. Their current method of an abusive star chamber of idiots that can't remember who said what when is a stellar example of injustice, a mess that seems to be modeled after the injustices of Jesus' trial and execution.
  
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  ** NEW LIGHT!!**

  by kairos in

  1. social
  2. humour

  **overlapping donations**.

  yes.. that's a thing.

  not new, of course.i just felt like shouting it from the housetop.. ( don't forget the worldwide work, friends... ).

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  My overlapping donations to WT are invisibly present.

  I'm gonna call that a thing, too